Stop Dancing Around This Fruitless Debate on Eternal Salvation

Stop Dancing Around This Fruitless Debate on Eternal Salvation

The path of the just was meant to be one straight line, upward and forward movement only. Upward in our vertical ascents into the heavenlies from glory to glory. Forward in our horizontal movements from exploit to exploit. Egypt forgot how to build the pyramids. Rome forgot how to build the aqueducts. Some still carry water today. What they built still stands. Neither civilisation remembers how they did it.

“You look at great civilisations like ancient Egypt, and they were able to make the pyramids, and they forgot how to do that.”bers how they did it.

“You look at great civilizations like ancient Egypt, and they were able to make the pyramids, and they forgot how to do that.”

“And the Romans, they built these incredible aqueducts. They forgot how to do it.”

No army invaded them. The knowledge just stopped getting used, and the moment it did, it was gone.

Same collapse. Compressed into fifty years instead of a thousand.

“In 1969, we were able to send somebody to the moon… Then the space shuttle retired, and the United States could take no one to orbit.”

“People are mistaken when they think that technology just automatically improves… it will, by itself, degrade.”

Believers are also forgetting now how to hear from God, practise the presence of God, enter into encounters with the Holy Spirit and angels, ascend into the heavenlies, see visions, perform signs and wonders, deliver supernatural verities, bring a shift in atmospheres and environments by the power of the Holy Spirit, display the power of God unhindered and unencumbered in the face of adversity, walk in boldness and the Spirit of might, engage the seven Spirits of God in their ministries and lives and so much more.

Capability doesn’t sit in a vault. It only exists inside the people doing the work right now.

The second they stop, it doesn’t pause.  It disappears.

That should not scare you. It should focus you.

Nobody loses a civilisation to war. They lose it the moment they stop building.

Nobody is owed the future. It belongs to whoever keeps building it.

Abraham had a relationship with God, the relationship was so good that God and angels came to sit with him in his tent to share a meal

Melchizedek walked up to him and hailed him as the possessor of heaven and earth after meeting him for the first time

God made a covenant that secured the eternal salvation of all the families in the world with him from generation to generation.

It was his obedience that led to the divine exchange of sons, which made every believer a Son of God, while Jesus referred to himself as the Son of Man, often in recognition of this covenant.

Isaac didn’t have such a fantastic relationship with God

Jacob and Esau almost had no tenable relationship with God apart from enjoying the benefits of the covenant God had with Abraham.

There was no record of Isaac sitting with God and angels or of Esau meeting with God and the Ministering Spirits or even ever having a proper conversation that would make God refer to either of them as a friend or a covenant partner.

Jacob saw a ladder with Angels ascending and descending upon it in a dream. He didn’t know how to engage Angels. He said God was here and I know it not, so he named the place where this happened BETHEL.

It was a place of sighting God, not a place of encounter with God.

When he got into trouble later, he came back to Bethel, and there he had an encounter with an angel of God.

Jacob was looking for material blessings, but God wanted to renew and establish the already existing covenant he had with Abraham with him. Jacob had twelve sons, and none of them had a strong relationship with God. Joseph was an exceptionally moral and spiritually aware person, but his relationship with God cannot be compared to that of Abraham. Even his description as the father of faith was earned simply because he believed God when God spoke to him, and he obeyed.

Jacob had twelve sons, and none of them had a strong relationship with God. Joseph was an exceptionally moral and spiritually aware person, but his relationship with God cannot be compared to that of Abraham. He knew God after the flesh and was instrumental to God’s plan in many ways, but he never had a one-on-one meeting with God or a sit-down with angels or even a vision of heaven, the future and eternity.

Comparing relationships among the patriarchs, Abraham wins hands down.

The era of Moses came, and like Abraham, Moses knew God beyond the senses and sight. He journeyed with God and into God, and the evidence of this is still felt all over the world till today from his writings in the Bible and the evolution of the Jewish monotheistic religion and constitution.

We saw first-hand the miracles that those who have journeyed with God can do and how they can use the anointing of the Lord to bring about real and significant change in the realm of powerful kings, kingdoms, nature and even bring demonic powers to their knees.

Pharaoh’s sorcerers called the power Moses was wielding the “Finger of God”

Then Moses died, and we saw on the record that he received the Spirit of wisdom, parted the Jordan supernaturally as Moses would have done or had done before with the Red Sea, but he only met with an angel once when he was looking for a means to defeat Jericho.

Again, compare Moses with Joshua, and you will see that the first generation always had a vertical relationship with heaven and a horizontal reality of power and exploits on the earth that is tangible and destiny-defining.

The second generation, however, seems content to live off the ease the first generation provided, and by the third or fourth generation, the people would have forgotten there was a God of covenant, and they would be fully in their flesh and doing things with only human wisdom all over again.

This trend continued throughout the Bible except for some anomalies.

Enoch and Methuselah. Eli and Samuel and Samuel’s sons, David-Solomon-Rehoboam, Daniel-Nehemiah, and so on.

The anomalies were Elijah-Elisha, Jesus and the Apostles. The problem of retaining that which was received in vertical gains and building on it for greater exploits and understanding of the things of the Spirit is multigenerational.

Look at Kenneth Haggin and all the exploits, by now those who trained under him should be doing “greater works” and no be building a monument around this one anointed man where his exploits are rehashed and studied and read but without the necessary impact of the Spirit of Light that would empower those who knew him to walk in a higher level of grace than he did (So we cannot see the upward and forward movement here but we can see circular. As believers we skirt, or circle round about doctrine instead of walking upward and forward continually).

I have read about Wigglesworth, A.W. ToZer, A. A. Allen. B.B. Bosworth, The Wesley Brothers, Charles Finney, Kathryn Khulman, Benny Hinn, ArchBishop Benson Idahosa, Pastor E.A. Adeboye, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Bishop Oyedepo and many more

Those of us coming behind them should build on their legacies vertically and horizontally by moving away from petty doctrinal differences into the realm of exploits

At what age do you expect me to be debating Once saved, always saved versus Salvation is not eternal security with you? You and who?

Did you not see it boldly written in the book of Hebrews that it is a shameful thing that those who ought to be teachers are still in need of someone to teach them the ELEMENTARY truths of God’s word all over again? Instead of moving from milk to solid food, they are still infants who live on milk and are not acquainted with the teachings about righteousness.

Solid food is for the mature who, by constant use (not debates and trending hashtags online or looking for talking points) have trained themselves to distinguish divine enlightenment from carnal engagements.

In other words, we cannot keep arguing about mundane things when we ought to lock in our elementary belief systems and build on them a relationship with God that transcends arguments and debates into irrefutable proofs that would help the next generation do better than the ones before them. We cannot keep skirting a mountain while deluding ourselves that we are marching towards a goal.

It does not matter if you believe you can lose your salvation or not.

Baba Adeboye believes salvation can be lost, and he is doing exploits in His walk with God with irrefutable proof.

Baba Okonkwo believes salvation cannot be lost and he is doing exploits in His walk with God with irrefutable proof. Pastor Kumuyi believes you can lose your salvation, and he is doing greater works with irrefutable proofs globally. Pastor Chris believes in eternal security, and he is doing greater exploits with irrefutable proofs globally.

The apostles in Acts 15 argued over doctrines all night; this did not stop Paul and Peter from working diverse kinds of miracles on the streets of Jerusalem some days later.

Whatever you believe is your elementary conviction upon which you must build your relationship with God, and move on from milk to solid food so that you will not hand this argument to the next generation, but you will deliver to them a legacy of supernatural exploits and dimensions of power which is far better than the ones we are walking in at the moment.

If we don’t hand over this progressive understanding of the gospel to the coming generations and move on from quarterly arguments on once saved always saved like broken records, we will not be able to do the exploits that we all ought to desire because the apostles did them with ease.

Kenneth Hagin, Kathryn Khulman, Benny Hinn, Pastor Adeboye, Bishop Idahosa, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, A. W. Tozer, Charles Finney, The Copelands, The Oyedepos and so many others have experienced tremendous grace and power in Christ regardless of their stance on eternal security.

It will be wise of us to do the same, to leave milk behind and pursue solid food so that our children will build upon our advancement and not lose it and have to start all over again.

This is what my eyes are locked on. The supernatural and how to bring as many believers into it as possible so that when my journey is over, others will be doing greater works and not engaging in childish arguments.

-GSW-